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though most have centered around foreign policy, others have been about the economy, like in 2008. when the economy imploded, john mccain's advisors say his campaign collapsed along with it and never recovered. historians say in order for an october surprise to have a real 11th hour impact, it has to feed into a narrative that already exists, whether it's carter's ineffectiveness or questions about mccain's credentials on the economy. >> it's not so much that suddenly eureka, this is so surprising, so amazing, but rather, people nod yes, this is where we thought things were going. >> reporter: it's possible we may have already seen this election year's october surprise. maybe it was how the candidates reacted to tragedy in libya and the broader unrest in the mideast or maybe it was mitt romney's now infamous 47% remarks, or perhaps one or both of the campaigns is holding damaging information about the other, or there will be an unforeseen event on the world stage. it's hard to say, since if we could guess, it would not be called an october surprise. dana bash, cnn, washington. >> w
though most have centered around foreign policy, others have been about the economy, like in 2008. when the economy imploded, john mccain's advisors say his campaign collapsed along with it and never recovered. historians say in order for an october surprise to have a real 11th hour impact, it has to feed into a narrative that already exists, whether it's carter's ineffectiveness or questions about mccain's credentials on the economy. >> it's not so much that suddenly eureka, this is so...
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that would seem to indicate a failure in the obama foreign policy. yet the president will point to the did he say mation of al-qaeda and the killing of bin laden to persuade voters he is not soft on the jihad. to be fair to president obama, opinions about his muslim outreach are inconclusive at this point. most americans don't want war with iran because that would send oil prices and possibly lead to world war 3. there is no way on this earth that israel is going to allow iran to develop a nuclear weapon. the israelis will attack the iranians. they will attack. it's just a matter of when. so americans must decide which presidential candidate can better manage the situation. things have not changed in iran since mr. obama took office, except the iranians are further down the road to development of the nuclear weapons. governor romney says he would get tougher with the iranians by supporting israel to a greater ex tents 6789 it's an incredibly difficult situations that all americans should be talking about. now the top story, who has the better take on
that would seem to indicate a failure in the obama foreign policy. yet the president will point to the did he say mation of al-qaeda and the killing of bin laden to persuade voters he is not soft on the jihad. to be fair to president obama, opinions about his muslim outreach are inconclusive at this point. most americans don't want war with iran because that would send oil prices and possibly lead to world war 3. there is no way on this earth that israel is going to allow iran to develop a...
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not about foreign policy. the mormon identity and i want to also point out i have been busy on this but struck by it. this is wednesday's washington post and my wife pointed it out to me. a story up here at the top. at u.n. the president issues a challenge. here is the lead story. ohio florida give obama an edge. here is the side-bar story. for obama the buckeye state maybe a bulls eye. my wife turned to me and said well, i guess the race is over according to the washington post. am i overreacting to this? and more importantly is my wife overreact on this? >> reporting on the poll there's has been discussion about the polling and whether the polling is oversampling democrats. to come extent political reporters report on polls and that drives the narrate ives. the biggest problem mitt romney has in terms of media bias is less an idelogical bias and the attacked that they are covering him as if he is losing. they never covered george w. bush like he was going to lose. >> you look like you are going to come out o
not about foreign policy. the mormon identity and i want to also point out i have been busy on this but struck by it. this is wednesday's washington post and my wife pointed it out to me. a story up here at the top. at u.n. the president issues a challenge. here is the lead story. ohio florida give obama an edge. here is the side-bar story. for obama the buckeye state maybe a bulls eye. my wife turned to me and said well, i guess the race is over according to the washington post. am i...
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>> i think that the foreign policy of this administration, for 3 1/2, 4 years now, has been one of a step back. the phrase that came out of the white house, to leads from behind, which you can't lead from behind. leaders lead from the front. the economic management of our country has told the world that we're in decline, and it was sufficient that the vice president of the united states had to go at his convention and say, we're not in decline. now, why did he have to say that? because it's clear the country is managing its economic affairs in a way that tells the world we're modeling america after europe. that's a failed model. the idea of another half a trillion cut in the defense budget sends the signal out to the world that the united states will not be in a position to contribute to peace and stability and contribute to a better world, which we've done throughout my adult life. our country has been a factor, a presence, but it's in withdrawal under this administration. a vacuum abhors a -- it just -- it will be filled by somebody, and it will filled by countries that don't have
>> i think that the foreign policy of this administration, for 3 1/2, 4 years now, has been one of a step back. the phrase that came out of the white house, to leads from behind, which you can't lead from behind. leaders lead from the front. the economic management of our country has told the world that we're in decline, and it was sufficient that the vice president of the united states had to go at his convention and say, we're not in decline. now, why did he have to say that? because...
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we can't have the truth about the failure of his foreign policy. we can't have the truth about his overall failure as a president at anything. >> greta: and the hits keep coming and fast. former new hampshire governor john sununu ratchets it up, saying president obama is absolutely lazy and detached from his job. governor sununu joins us. nice to see you, governor. >> good to be here. how are you? >> greta: very well. very tough words. can you defend them? because that's very biting words. >> sure. look, one of the key responsibilities of a president is to keep up with the intelligence data that's coming in, what's going on around the world. this president has skipped about 60% of his personal contact presidential daily briefings, the pdb. that document he skims on his ipad is a summary. the briefings that come over, the experts that come over to follow in detail what's coming up on, this president thinks he's so smart he doesn't have to go through that. he thinks he doesn't need to put the extra work in for going through that process. that's why i
we can't have the truth about the failure of his foreign policy. we can't have the truth about his overall failure as a president at anything. >> greta: and the hits keep coming and fast. former new hampshire governor john sununu ratchets it up, saying president obama is absolutely lazy and detached from his job. governor sununu joins us. nice to see you, governor. >> good to be here. how are you? >> greta: very well. very tough words. can you defend them? because that's very...
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policy in collapse, of the fact that the al qaeda which he was spiking the football for a week. al qaeda is back. we have got a new slogan for biden. which is bin laden dead. al qaeda alive. that was the meaning of all of this you could have attached the libya story. not as a conspiracy or coverup story. you would say the larger argument, the reason they had to cover it up. the reason they had to pretend it was all about a demonstration and video is because they can't admit is completely exploded. so if you create the larger context all the little events otherwise go uns inned especially by the media. you put them in context. would get a headline with al qaeda is back and we're going to be the target number one. >> i have a third point but that's going to have to be next week. >> bill: all right, charles. >> i'm not governor perry. >> bill: factor tip of the day what i'm doing early tomorrow morning and why you should care. the tip 60 seconds away. forz(power!) andiamo! andiamo! (let's go! let's go!) avanti! avanti! (keep going! keep going!) hahaha...hahahaha! you know ronny, fo
policy in collapse, of the fact that the al qaeda which he was spiking the football for a week. al qaeda is back. we have got a new slogan for biden. which is bin laden dead. al qaeda alive. that was the meaning of all of this you could have attached the libya story. not as a conspiracy or coverup story. you would say the larger argument, the reason they had to cover it up. the reason they had to pretend it was all about a demonstration and video is because they can't admit is completely...
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it's a collapse of our foreign policy. really what we're seeing -- >> you say a collapse of foreign policy. well, go ahead. finish your tlans and then i want to talk about that for a minute. >> sure. i think it's going to be a domestic policy debate. i'm sure romney's main message is going to be, look, it doesn't have to be this way, okay? we can create jobs, we can deal with the federal deficit, and, yes, we can have a foreign policy where we stabilize these parts of the world if we'll just act in the traditions of bipartisan foreign policy since world war ii. i think that's going to be his basic message. >> in the op-ed there was a phrase used, soft power. i guess what does that mean? what would they have done differently with libya? >> well, here's what should have happened. first, ideally you anticipate the arab spring. if you can't do that, when it happens you set forth a very clear vision of where the region ought to go, in the direction of a constitutional government. you actually get involved in these countries. yo
it's a collapse of our foreign policy. really what we're seeing -- >> you say a collapse of foreign policy. well, go ahead. finish your tlans and then i want to talk about that for a minute. >> sure. i think it's going to be a domestic policy debate. i'm sure romney's main message is going to be, look, it doesn't have to be this way, okay? we can create jobs, we can deal with the federal deficit, and, yes, we can have a foreign policy where we stabilize these parts of the world if...
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. >> we've got to get professional with our foreign policy. we have to understand there is some reality to peace through strength and trying to be soft and apologetic as a foreign policy tool is the dumbest thing we can do. >> the president made no apology in that speech today. >> bill: joe, let me ask you this question. joe, he was pandering -- i was embarrassed frankly to watch him give the speech. >> i was proud of him. >> bill: didn't talk about the block there was a crucifix in urine. >> read the speech. read the speech. >> bill: joe, you got to stop interrupting. juan at interrupting. one at a time. >> you interrupt me, i won't interrupt you. >> bill: that's the way it works. this is a picture of mohamed morsi, former muslim brotherhood head referred to the israelis as vampires, was part of a terrorist organization, gets $2 billion, american dollars, a year, and i want to know, he says that we're not necessarily an ally of egypt, he's aligning with iran. why should we give more cent to the muslim brotherhood in egypt? should you explain
. >> we've got to get professional with our foreign policy. we have to understand there is some reality to peace through strength and trying to be soft and apologetic as a foreign policy tool is the dumbest thing we can do. >> the president made no apology in that speech today. >> bill: joe, let me ask you this question. joe, he was pandering -- i was embarrassed frankly to watch him give the speech. >> i was proud of him. >> bill: didn't talk about the block there...
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president you said you were taking our foreign policy in a different direction. the middle east is in flames against america and our ambassador is dead. mr. president, in sudan they will not allow u.s. marines to guard american soil. what do you have to say about that? >> sean: romney has got to understand, they're not going to ask these questions. it's his job to bring it up as of next wednesday. here's andrea mitchell, "nbc nightly news," and she says it's ambassador rice who was sent out with false information that we now know is false, as corroborated by a scrubbed websites at the state department to lie as as did jay carney, as did secretary clinton. watch this. >> it's very unusual for the intelligence community to make this admission. politics are clearly in play. the questions being asked are why did they get it wrong? was it because there was a cover-up or was it because they were trying to avoid acknowledging mistakes this close to an election? so there is always a political context. certainly the white house today and tonight very strongly defending su
president you said you were taking our foreign policy in a different direction. the middle east is in flames against america and our ambassador is dead. mr. president, in sudan they will not allow u.s. marines to guard american soil. what do you have to say about that? >> sean: romney has got to understand, they're not going to ask these questions. it's his job to bring it up as of next wednesday. here's andrea mitchell, "nbc nightly news," and she says it's ambassador rice who...
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. >> i executed on my foreign policy and one that the american people largely agree with. so, you know, if governor romney is suggesting that we should start another war, he should say so. >> that was nbc's andrea mitchell reporting. >>> this morning iran is responding to netanyahu's red line comments saying it reserves the right to retaliate against any attack. meantime, new internal israeli government report finds that international sanctions are, in fact, hurting iran's economy but have not slowed down the nuclear program. the report calls for another round of sanctions to be implemented. >> in the race for the white house, we have got new batch of poll numbers coming out on three more battleground states. according to the new nbc/"wall street journal"/marist college poll, the president has a slim lead over voters in north carolina where the democrats held their national convention earlier this month. obama won the state in 2008 by less than 1%. he also has a two-point advantage in nevada, well within the margin of error and in new hampshire where mitt romney owns a hom
. >> i executed on my foreign policy and one that the american people largely agree with. so, you know, if governor romney is suggesting that we should start another war, he should say so. >> that was nbc's andrea mitchell reporting. >>> this morning iran is responding to netanyahu's red line comments saying it reserves the right to retaliate against any attack. meantime, new internal israeli government report finds that international sanctions are, in fact, hurting iran's...
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i think foreign policy matters. clearly look, an op-ed and then paul ryan saying what he said with laura engram is not by accident. it's purposeful. i think they wind up coming back to the economy. >> that is the subject of the debate unless they go off topic. chris cizilla, see you later. thank you so much. >>> and foreign policy is, of course, a crushing issue for all of those with soldiers deployed and their families at home and three more americans among the dead after a suicide bomber attacked a military patrol today in khost, afghanistan. the bomber struck a group of afghan police and u.s. troops as they walked through a market. the taliban claimed responsibility. nbc's lester holt is in kabul where he's been reporting for the past week and a half as part of a special nbc news series on region and conflict. lester, you have been on the ground, what is your take away on the green on blue attacks and this suicide attack which is different, at least the taliban taking responsibility? >> well, andrea, it's really
i think foreign policy matters. clearly look, an op-ed and then paul ryan saying what he said with laura engram is not by accident. it's purposeful. i think they wind up coming back to the economy. >> that is the subject of the debate unless they go off topic. chris cizilla, see you later. thank you so much. >>> and foreign policy is, of course, a crushing issue for all of those with soldiers deployed and their families at home and three more americans among the dead after a...
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americans don't care as much in the polls about foreign policy. but several weeks later after this, i think it's very legitimate now that the press is going in and a couple of weeks have passed since the ambassador's death, now, yes. i mean, he's got a responsibility to talk about how badly the white house bungled this. >> i think he does. and indeed, you know, i think right now, the focus is a little misplaced. the notion that -- i think the white house is pretty credible in saying that they're learning more, that their initial instiblgt -- they didn't know the situation was initially, that they've explained it better as they've done intelligence assessments, but it raises the more fundamental question which is why was the consulate not secure? how was it that security issues, as opposed to their stories afterward, these are american lives at stake in an unstable region, what are the intelligence failures? what were the security failures? those are fundamental questions. >> there were intelligence failu failures, there were warnings, mark halperi
americans don't care as much in the polls about foreign policy. but several weeks later after this, i think it's very legitimate now that the press is going in and a couple of weeks have passed since the ambassador's death, now, yes. i mean, he's got a responsibility to talk about how badly the white house bungled this. >> i think he does. and indeed, you know, i think right now, the focus is a little misplaced. the notion that -- i think the white house is pretty credible in saying that...
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is that the the president's foreign policy is popul popular. allows the president to say the job is not done but where we've gone over the past four years we've had significant accomplishments from bin laden to yemen and other places and we're going to stay at it. i think that's going to be a compelling message that romney is going to be hard to overcome. >> indeed. p.j. crowley, thank you, sir, as always for your time and expertise. >> thanks, alex. >> coming up, the obama administration is certainly not the first to concern itself with political optics but before the proliferation of the 24 hour news cycle and rise of rapid response white houses had different ways of handling it. for example, the kennedy presidency. the newly released audiotapes from jfk's time in the oval office ahead on "now." so, we all set? i've got two tickets to paradise! pack your bags, we'll leave tonight. uhh, it's next month, actually... eddie continues singing: to tickets to... paradiiiiiise! no four. remember? whoooa whooaa whooo! you know ronny, folks who save hu
is that the the president's foreign policy is popul popular. allows the president to say the job is not done but where we've gone over the past four years we've had significant accomplishments from bin laden to yemen and other places and we're going to stay at it. i think that's going to be a compelling message that romney is going to be hard to overcome. >> indeed. p.j. crowley, thank you, sir, as always for your time and expertise. >> thanks, alex. >> coming up, the obama...
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i think both men being there, it's important to put foreign policy front and center at this point in the campaign. >> i thought it was good mitt romney went there, cracked a couple of good jokes, and you have to say, look at the overall position in this election, it seems extraordinary to me that the polls seem to be widening. when you have a country that's 8.2% unemployment, $16 trillion in debt, gas prices doubling, all of the huge sticks to beat the incumbent president with. and you look at it, mitt romney has to win, the lead stretched to an eight-point lead. why is this happening? why is mitt romney not able to persuade the public, despite the devastating statistics against barack obama's tenure? he's apparently rolling away to victory in places like ohio? >> is that for me, piers? >> yes, richard. >> thank you. first there, are ebbs and flows. jimmy carter was far ahead in his election against ronald reagan, where he was beaten decessively. i think polls would show them statistically tied, tough fights in certain swing states. what governor romney is trying to do is point out t
i think both men being there, it's important to put foreign policy front and center at this point in the campaign. >> i thought it was good mitt romney went there, cracked a couple of good jokes, and you have to say, look at the overall position in this election, it seems extraordinary to me that the polls seem to be widening. when you have a country that's 8.2% unemployment, $16 trillion in debt, gas prices doubling, all of the huge sticks to beat the incumbent president with. and you...
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policy, he's moving into an area that the president believes he's stronger and foreign policy is one of those areas where the incumbent has greater advantages and we will a he hear it in the upcoming debates. g.m. is alive and obama that will work to the disadvantage of romney. he wants to talk about the economy, which i think is what he sees as the administration's weakenings. the more time he spends on foreign policy it takes him away from his core message. >> eliot: the issue of iran and the bomb that was in the news during the u.n. general assembly meeting, where are we on that. the president seems to be inching towards a demonstration towards a lack of patience, and the israeli view is that the time runs short. i mean, is this a matter of months where we need some resolution? >> well, i think there is some makings of a deal but it's going to take time, and to work on this. an example of where romney has rhetoric on iran, but when pressed what is his bottom line, it's similar if not identical president obama. >> eliot: p.j. crowley as always, thank you so much for your wisdom. >>
policy, he's moving into an area that the president believes he's stronger and foreign policy is one of those areas where the incumbent has greater advantages and we will a he hear it in the upcoming debates. g.m. is alive and obama that will work to the disadvantage of romney. he wants to talk about the economy, which i think is what he sees as the administration's weakenings. the more time he spends on foreign policy it takes him away from his core message. >> eliot: the issue of iran...
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we've had businessman romney, foreign policy romney, latino romney. (laughter) but we still haven't seen aqua romney! (laughter and applause) he-- (cheers and applause) he uses his mental powers to tell fish that 47% of them are just lampreys. (laughter) so conservatives, just forget about the polls! it is way too soon to start mourning the death of the romney campaign. and i am not in denial here, because that would mean i was starting the five stages of grief. and i am not! oh, that makes me so angry! (laughter) and i will do anything not to be going through the five stages! let's make a deal, god. i'm so sad. (laughter) well, nothing more i can do. (laughter) (cheers and applause) time to give in. time to just-- time to just give up. which i won't, because everything's fine! (laughter) mitt is going to win! and that is good, because, folks, the importance of this race cannot be overstated! >> the choice you face won't just be between two candidates or two parties, it will be a choice between two different paths for america. a choice between two fun
we've had businessman romney, foreign policy romney, latino romney. (laughter) but we still haven't seen aqua romney! (laughter and applause) he-- (cheers and applause) he uses his mental powers to tell fish that 47% of them are just lampreys. (laughter) so conservatives, just forget about the polls! it is way too soon to start mourning the death of the romney campaign. and i am not in denial here, because that would mean i was starting the five stages of grief. and i am not! oh, that makes me...
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of foreign policy. >> just the optics of that, do you think it has the potential of hurting the campaign? >> i doubt it. it's going to clearly come up in the foreign policy debate, but i think it's more a mistake in terms of foreign policy. at a time like this as you say with so much turmoil in the middle east, to refuse to meet middle eastern leaders, the president of asia, egypt wanted a meeting, prime minister netanyahu of israel, as he well knows, fareed knows better than i do, and diplomacy, personal relationships are very, very important. it's especially true in the middle east, where people want to look you in the eye, take your measure, and decide what kind of relationship they're going to have with you. so i think simply in terms of what's going on in the middle east but it's also true, anderson, that i think in terms of his presidency, you know, taxpayers want a full-time president. they want somebody who's looking after them at times of trouble and yes, of course people expect him to campaign
of foreign policy. >> just the optics of that, do you think it has the potential of hurting the campaign? >> i doubt it. it's going to clearly come up in the foreign policy debate, but i think it's more a mistake in terms of foreign policy. at a time like this as you say with so much turmoil in the middle east, to refuse to meet middle eastern leaders, the president of asia, egypt wanted a meeting, prime minister netanyahu of israel, as he well knows, fareed knows better than i do,...
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, but foreign policy is looming large as well. i want to turn to richard engel live in kabul this morning where there is news beyond the libya crisis. there are now 50 plus insider attacks that have killed american and other coalition forces. what's the latest you can tell us on the latest attack? >> reporter: there's been another attack. it took place yesterday. but word of the insider attack is just coming to us today. in this attack, there was an american army checkpoint, a vehicle control point, and two afghan soldiers came up. they were speaking to the americans at this checkpoint. and then suddenly one of these afghan soldiers pulled out a weapon, opened fire, killed one american soldier, killed another american contractor, and then another americans in the area opened fire, killing at least three of the afghans. and this is a major problem according to statistics. at least 20% of all u.s. combat deaths this year are a result of these insider attacks. and there have been orders issued to try and separate u.s. and afghan forc
, but foreign policy is looming large as well. i want to turn to richard engel live in kabul this morning where there is news beyond the libya crisis. there are now 50 plus insider attacks that have killed american and other coalition forces. what's the latest you can tell us on the latest attack? >> reporter: there's been another attack. it took place yesterday. but word of the insider attack is just coming to us today. in this attack, there was an american army checkpoint, a vehicle...
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he says president obama's foreign policy is to blame. rnc chair reince priebus joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> hey. he's right. you blue at barack obama, not only did he make a whole host of promises in this country that he didn't fulfill -- remember back in 2007, it was barack obama who made the sales pitch to our country and the world that balls of his background, living in indonesia, in a muslim country, that he was going to bring a special type of diplomacy to northern africa and the middle east. now we're seeing the results of barack obama. now, he's the guy that -- that said that mitt romney was shooting first and aiming later when mitt romney criticized the fact that barack obama had to walk back the statements made from an embassy in egypt. now the media is fixated on asking questions about that, but they should be asking questions to barack obama as to why would you as president of the united states have to walk back comments of your own embassy in egypt? and so it is aiken to jimmy carter of 1979. it'he hasn't been able to take control of these things going o
he says president obama's foreign policy is to blame. rnc chair reince priebus joins us. nice to see you, sir. >> hey. he's right. you blue at barack obama, not only did he make a whole host of promises in this country that he didn't fulfill -- remember back in 2007, it was barack obama who made the sales pitch to our country and the world that balls of his background, living in indonesia, in a muslim country, that he was going to bring a special type of diplomacy to northern africa and...
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policy over the last three and a half years and it's interesting, andrea, to see that foreign policy has made a real comeback, right in the heart of this political campgn right now, everything from the middle east crises to the in pemh elnd wh us, and, of course, china as a scapegoat for both candidates really, and i think it's important that we continue this discussion of foreign policy as the debates approach over the next month. >> exactly. mo,ndt same tanyahu arrin podium where iran's president was today. how does he inject himself into the campaign or combat the iranian threats and rhetoric? >> i think prime minister nenyahis amarty,as a real responsibility as he will do, obviously, to take these charges by ahmadinejad seriously. if you're an israeliiven israeli and jewish history you cannot disregard the leader of a foreign country who routinely, not just once or twice, sa he want to wipe ilff theap of world. so prime minister netanyahu has an opportunity tomorrow which i'm sure he'll take to be a strong advocate for his country, stand up for israel, he can count on the united
policy over the last three and a half years and it's interesting, andrea, to see that foreign policy has made a real comeback, right in the heart of this political campgn right now, everything from the middle east crises to the in pemh elnd wh us, and, of course, china as a scapegoat for both candidates really, and i think it's important that we continue this discussion of foreign policy as the debates approach over the next month. >> exactly. mo,ndt same tanyahu arrin podium where iran's...
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>>> and mitt romney took a stab at a vision for foreign policy and said there should be very specific conditions for a country to get foreign aid from the united states. >>> and a college student nearly dies after consuming alcohol. but how he got it into his body might shock you. ado! the most dependable, longest lasting, full-size pickups on the road. so, what do you think? [ engine revs ] i'll take it. [ male announcer ] it's chevy truck month. now during chevy truck month,...